Category Archives: 457 Visa

Australia’s illegal immigration problem

The ABS consistently forecast wage growth, blissfully unaware of the effects of illegal immigration driving down wages an conditions. A more cynical mind might assume they were promising  paradise while mixing the cyanide into the cool aid. Not sure where this chart was from, but its based on ABS data.

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So what happened after 2007 you might ask…

Net Migration AU 1970 2019 ABS

Immigration jumped to more than double, almost triple the previous 30 years average rate.OF course this was coupled with illegal work permits and other rorting of the Australian taxpayer.

20% of the workforce are migrant guest workers 

10% of the work force are migrant guest workers are in breach of their visa.

 

The following comment (with minor spelling corrections) was taken from:

Like Australia, immigration rorts run riot across New Zealand

Mike MB

19 Jan 2019

NZ is just a feeder intake.. a transit lounge for the third would migrant guest-workers.
NZ has an outlet – Australia is these trafficked migrant’s end destination.
86% of foreign migrant arrivals in NZ who are given the NZ passport stamp then enter Australia & it’s a 90% one way flow.
As Winston Peters said “NZ only sells 2 things, milk powder to the Chinese & passport entry stamps to Australia to the third world”. Peters even offered to apologize to Australia for the migrant trafficking trade.

Of course Peters is now in power, and as NZ foreign minister he has done nothing about it.
Because the NZ government want the trans Tasman trafficking & Australia as their outlet to continue.
So NZ can shed their migrant intake mistakes & social burden into Australia and its then Australia’s problem.
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We have 687,000 NZ Special Category Visa holders in Australia.
Of these 259,000 or 37% are non NZ born, usually Asian or Indian and very low grade, most would not be able to directly enter Australia. (Why they go via NZ).
The rest of the non NZ born are typically African, Middle Eastern, South American or Eurotrash, often having been in Australia & exited or refused Australian visas so they go via the NZ back door.
NZ is notoriously easy to get into, as easily defrauded as Australia in fake doc, fake health checks, child bridges, fake family & partners, fake courses, fake pretext.

The actual number of genuine NZ born in Australia is declining as the wave or arrivals in the 1980’s go back.
When was the last time you met or even heard the dulcet tones & mangled vowels of a new genuine NZ born arrival? As rare as a kiwi in the bush.

The simple fix is that the NZ / Aust SCV should be restricted to only Australia or New Zealand Born.

All non NZ Born SCV (the trafficked Asians & Indians via the NZ back door) in Australia should be placed on a Non NZ born Sub class visa & have all work rights or benefits removed. They would have to return to NZ & the migrant trafficking trade into NZ would halt overnight.

These 259,000 non NZ born SCV in Australia are just 9% of the overall migrant trafficking problem we have.

We have 2.8 million migrant guest-workers in Australia.
Most are adult. Most are of third world origin.
China, India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Northern & South East Asia, Middle East & African.
Mostly are unskilled. Trafficked in by foreign agent procurers, invariably in loan debt, on some form of visa pretext as the article outlines.
Invariably defrauded, invariably criminal, each wave of migrant guest workers then criminally facilitating the next wave in chain migration.

Only here to work (the 690,000 NZ SCV are permanent stay full work rights) , or to work illegally, to snag a PR & be the anchor in further chain migration.

The 2.8 million migrant guest-workers are now 1 in 9 of the people in Australia.
We have more guest-workers than Gaddafi at his peak.
Collectively they form a sub economy of $140 billion, with $70 billion of that in underground illegal migrant guest-workers.

They are 1 in every 5 people working.
Of that, half or 1 in every 10 people working is a migrant guest-worker in some form of visa breach.

Australia’s largest industry is supported by widespread foreign run criminal syndicates organizing the fake ID, ABN, labour rings, cash in hand & other rackets, so little or no tax paid.

Highly concentrated in Sydney & Melbourne.
1 in 4, or 1.3 million migrant guest-workers are in Sydney.
1 in 5 or 1.1 million migrant guest-workers in Melbourne.
400k elsewhere in mini-me migrant ghettos in our other cities.
Occupying some 650,000 ex Australian dwellings now foreign owned & converted to migrant only cash in gags sub let bunk share. There’s your housing bubble.

Temporary Visa Migrants by
🔹Visa Category Dec-2018
🔻est in visa breach / illegal working.
———————————————————
🔹Overstayers: 69,000, all work illegally 🔻40,000
🔹Visitor: 395,000. 40% work illegally 🔻160,000
🔹Bridging 197,000 explosion Given work rights!
🔹Foreign Student (672,000) 575,000 on student visa & 97,000 on other visas. partial work rights & partners with full work rights. 75% work illegally 🔻504,000.
🔹Working Holiday, 148,000 many illegally🔻60,000
🔹Grad Temp 65,000 Partial rights / illegally 🔻20,000
🔹Skilled Regional Prov 20,000 – fraud visa 🔻10,000
🔹Other TR 70,000, wide abuse🔻40,000 work illegally
🔹Empl Sponsored 152,000 (457 + TSS) visa fraud, cash back & fake wages. Partners as well. 🔻70,000
🔹Temp ‘Partner’ 90,000 Work illegally 🔻45,000
🔹NZ SCV 687,000. Have full work rights, over 259,000 non NZ Born Indian & Chinese via back door
🔹Bus Prov 28,000 Widespread visa fraud 🔻10,000

TR / SCV migrant guest-workers 2,431,000
Third world unskilled 2,100,000
Fake visa pretext 1,600,000
🔻Visa breach working illegally 950,000
That’s 2.4 million TR, nearly 1 million in visa breach.

Then we have on top of that another 440,000 who come in to work illegally as Tourist Visitors.
Australia has 8.8 million Tourist arrivals a year.
Many are on short & medium repeat stay. 3 months, 6 months, repeat tourist visits. Most are from China, South Asia & India. The vast bulk are not ‘tourists staying in hotels spending money’. They are mostly poor third world lowlife who can’t get in on a TR visa. Spend some time at the airport immigration or flight arrivals. Or check the Tourism Australia stats.
The vast majority are not tourists but migrant ‘visitors’ spending zero in any business or tourist activity.

These ‘tourists’ are the core of the bridging, protection & asylum claims. They also come in to use Medicare (completely broken) with a huge onshore industry in medical tourism for Indians & Asians to come here to Australia on a tourist visa to ‘borrow’ a PR or defrauded Medicare card for free medical treatment & to get the PBS subsided drugs. PBS drugs they take back to China or India to sell – which then funds their criminal syndicates & the trip.

They stay in ‘private shared accommodation’ along with the 2.4 million TR / SCV already here.

With an average 3 month tourist visa/ “repeat & multiple stay” – the Asians & Indians get max stay, that’s about 2.2 million onshore at any one time.
Consuming at least another 200,000 plus Australian dwellings as occupants in ‘visiting’.

A large percentage here on a tourist visa work. Whether that’s as a nanny, cook, cleaner, farm work, labor rings, vice work – whatever. Third world poor people in a first world country, they are here to work.

Estimates vary – but the ABF submission in 2016 to the parliamentary inquiry stated that at least 5% or more worked illegally when in Australia.
The media has exposed some of the cash in hand, fake ID & foreign criminal syndicates trafficking these migrant tourists for labor rings & vice work etc.
The real estimate is closer to 20% but using that very conservative estimate of only 5% of 8.8 million tourist arrivals yearly = 440,000 third world migrant guest-workers working illegally at any one time over the year.

So the total number is:
2.4 million TR migrant guest-workers, with at least 1 million in visa breach working illegally.
Plus another 440,000 tourist visitors of 8.8 million a year also working illegally in visa breach.

That’s 2.8 million migrant guest-workers with 1.4 million working illegally in visa breach.

🔴There’s your wages issue.
🔴There’s your GDP per Capita issue.
🔴There’s your housing affordability & Australian homelessness issue.
🔴There’s your city congestion & overcrowding issue.
🔴There’s your occupants of the vast migrant slums that now engulf Sydney & Melbourne.

The TR & TV are the core nutrient in why our cities are now vast squalid migrant guest-workers slums full of ‘Temporary Residents (TR) or ‘Tourist visitors’ (TV).

It’s not (just) the PR.
Yes the PR were mistake, overshoot & 78% unskilled & non assimilating but now they are only a fraction of the whole migrant intake. The PR averaged 190,000 a year or 1.9 million in the last decade.
The 2.8 million TR & TV are 150% of the PR, equivalent to 15 years of PR intake! Even if the PR intake was zero for the next 10 years, it does nothing to fix the core TR & TV issue.

Some action is needed.
➡️ It needs a Royal Commission.

Neither political party in Australia can be trusted to act in the public interest.
We saw in NZ that Winston Peters was elected on the promise to act on migrant trafficking including into Australia, and he has done nothing.

Here both major parties studiously avoid the issue and the mainstream media & migrant lobbyists immediately stifle & kill any discussion on it.

Only a Royal Commission will expose the full issue and have the authority to enable overriding immigration legislation.
We need:
🔸Public awareness on the true numbers.
🔸Public awareness of the job, wages & congestion & housing impacts. How the migrant trafficking affects them personally in cost of living, job loss, wages loss , loss of opportunity, degraded education & healthcare.
Restriction across the board on visas & work rights.
🔸Remove all foreign student & ‘partner’ work rights.
🔸TR visa funds checked – monthly on funds, activities, income & accommodation including rent paid & to who.
🔸Tier 1 city duration restrictions on working holidays.
🔸Remove or tighten up sponsor, spousal visas.
🔸Remove skilled work visas (with 1.3 million Australian unemployed & 1.1 million seeking work, no case for these visa categories)
🔸2 week decision on protection visas, no work rights.
No asylum in Australia if traveled thru other countries.
🔸No spousal or family sponsor visa grants to a non Australia born unless a citizen for 10 years. Only way stop the migrant cascade / chain migration rackets.
🔸Massive crackdown on tourist visitors working illegally – no long term & repeat stays. Jail for anyone found harboring & employing tourist visa holders.
🔸Removal of the NZ back door access. Aust/NZ SCV only for Aust/NZ born.

 

End of comment

Worst of all this problem has been well publicized and nothing has been done, because government officials are complicit in the scam. All of this feed corporate profits by reducing wages and driving up bank profits by creating demand for housing.

 

Another good artile about this and with specific reference to the IT 457 visa rorting:

IT firms in panicked push for local talent as visa scam impodes

IT students dwindle due to 457 Visa rorts

The IBM 5150 released on August 12 1981, this is where we get the term PC from and much of the basic architecture still in use.

The IBM 5150 released on August 12 1981, this is where we get the term PC from and much of the basic architecture still in use.

 

So a few days ago ‘The Age’ (our local rag) ran a story about High school student abandoning  IT as a field of study.

The article was good enough, but the comments were an absolute goldmine of insight into the problems in IT in Australia

http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/expertise/it-crowd-shrinking-as-vce-enrolments-plummet-20140907-10dizx.html

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  • I have worked in the industry for nearly 20 years. The jobs are slowly disappearing to overseas cheap labour pools and imported 457 workers who claim to have the skills and are willing to work for far less than is reasonable.

    Why would anyone want to study a subject or career that clearly has a poor future in this country?

    Ask Telstra for example how many jobs they plan to send to “Asia” over the next year alone.

    Commenter
    Martin
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    September 08, 2014, 7:37AM
    • Australian IT is a disaster, remember myki and hundreds of other projects paid for by taxpayers that are all over budget , late and don’t work well.

      Commenter
      preacher
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 8:09AM
    • Ive been in IT for 35 years and its never been this bad, and its all a result of failed Government policies

      Offshoring and 457 visas have decimated Programming, Testing, Business Analysis, etc. The last project I was on there was a team of 20 people on 457 visas.

      Abbott has relaxed 457 visas so its only getting worse.

      If your thinking about a career in IT, you’ve got bugs in your head

      Commenter
      IT DOES NOT COMPUTE
      Location
      Melb
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 8:23AM
    • Offshoring and 457 Visas are destroying/have destroyed the local IT industry. The hilarious thing is overseas workers come in on 457 Visas (weren’t they meant to be for positions where we don’t have the skills locally) and upon arrival they do not have a clue. They are shielded by the resident overseas workers to hide their incompetence. Projects are taking longer and have more bugs in them than ever before. And don’t get me started on their can’t say”no” issues.

      Commenter
      Gilly
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 8:57AM
    • +1 Yep its going down hill faster and faster. To anyone thinking of a career in IT forget it.

      Commenter
      Tim
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 9:20AM
    • Your right, overseas cheap labour, view source code and see note for example rajah said do it this way and that way etc, and upgrades to complex sites like TAB racing became worse and primate, upgrades to westpac BPAY atrocious enough for me to complain yesterday, but execs never check these upgrades nor are there customer complaint avenues. We see many script and hidden cache crashes via programmers not meeting updated flashplayer requirements and see new versions grow 10 times in size but do far less, excessive programming is excessive load. I think we need better quality training rather than worry about drop-out load

      Commenter
      Brian Woods
      Location
      Glenroy
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 9:57AM
    • Yep, and as Telstra is trumpeting Magda Szubanski in its ‘we love our customers’ advert, it continues to ship customer support functions to Manila and elsewhere, and 457 visas appear to have become the latest immigration portal. Google, “457 visa to permanent residency” to see how much effort is being put into this channel. IT as a career choice in Australia? Only if you are really passionate about it, and prepared to fight to get ahead.

      Commenter
      OpenWindow
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 9:57AM
    • The Department of Immigration and Border Protection’s most recent 457 quarterly report put the average salary for applications granted to 457 workers in the Information, Media & Telecommunications sponsor industry at $87,200 and for the Professional, Scientific and Technical sponsor industry at $96,500. I am unsure how those wages are unreasonable.

      Commenter
      teh krazy
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 10:13AM
    • I agree with all of the above. As an employer who is looking for client facing web developers. What a joke the so called ‘education revolution’ sausage factory has produced a whole lot of It paper graduates who will never get a real job in IT. More quality less quantity required. The reason is the ‘education revolution’ desperately needs new foreign paying students. Everybody knows most are going to be useless in the workplace. But the carrot is handing out visa’s and ultimately passports via this useless education. So tell your kids don’t even think about a career the government has sold them down the river.

      Commenter
      DifferentLens
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 10:37AM
    • @teh krazy
      The point is not the salary per se. The point is a 457 Visa should NEVER be granted to an IT worker as we have a plethora of qualified people here in Australia. The salary point is a whole other issue. If you have ever had anything to do with the outsource industry in IT you would know what most posters here are talking about.

      Commenter
      Gilly
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      September 08, 2014, 10:46AM

 

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