Category Archives: Carl Scrace
A narcissistic Gen Y spoilt rich kid and self styled ‘artist’ who has stolen OM media resources to promote himself.
If you have links to
occupymelbourne.org please update them to occupymelbourne.net
This is the most up to date and relevant source for all things Occupy Melbourne.
occupymelbourne.org was never responsive to requests from occupiers. It is just a personal political vehicle for a few careerists and wanna be politicians desperate to part of the system they claim to oppose.
who is behind all of this? the same protaganists as usual.
Yes these are your self styled dictators posing as the voice of Occupy Melbourne via the ‘ .org’ domain name.
A political prostitute with a face lift is still just a political prostitute.
It was a cool morning on October 21 2011 just a few minutes before 7am council worker came to distribute pre-printed notice to vacate leaflets. They got on their megaphone and the camp stirred. Drizzle started and the fences began to spring up around the camp. The rest is well documentation in a variety of places, the police violence the seizure and destruction of the entire camp, the marches down the streets being herded to trades hall.
The ‘about’ page has a good video if you have not seen it yet.
In the years that have followed some characters began to show their true colors, seizing the life and memory of OM for their own purposes to further their careers or line their pockets in other ways.
A court case that failed miserably. Muldoon
Media stunts that failed likewise. Carson & Scrase
An attempted erasure of what OM really was. Doyle
A white wash of it to claim it dead, largely by those who killed it. The retrospective- various
All of these parties seem to not understand you cant kill an idea, especially one whose time has come.
Following the interest in our feminism appreciation week, the hijackers that stole #OMEL along with all the other Occupy Melbourne media resources have claimed this website is not representative of Occupy Melbourne. Occupy Melbourne was never truly unified, it was always a series of factions. Some people tried to claim they would act as representatives for the voices of the occupiers, but it didn’t take long before they saw themselves as elites who had special privileges and special rights. Most of the hijackers spend little or no time at the occupations. Many never slept over in the parks, but felt it was their right to dictate the terms and conditions of those who did.
Eventually they claimed occupy Melbourne was dead but saw fit to continue to use all the media resources to promote their own agenda. They didn’t care about Occupy Melbourne or its original stated causes or objectives. That’s why Nick Carson didn’t bother to monitor the OM Wikipedia page and let it get vandalized. They didn’t care that they didn’t renew the OM domain names, simply anyone could have taken this domain name. Nick Carson never wanted to say what happened to all the monetary donations, the email contact lists.
If the Nick Carson led faction of media hijackers hadn’t stolen the voice of occupy Melbourne, this website would never have needed to exist. The fact that it does exist shows that he doesn’t represent Occupy Melbourne. People were so pissed off that their effort were being used to promote things they never voted for they started posting their own views here and asking for meaningful debate. Not every contributor here agrees with each other of different views, but most agree that the fraudulent monetary system we have is a cornerstone problem from which so many others originate from.
Dozens of author invites were sent out, some actually wanted to respond and contribute. Many people are just addicted to Facebook, which is their own issue. The reality is Facebook is a tool of narcissism not activism, it’s totally superficial heavily monitored and achieves nothing. So when nick Carson and his hijacker faction say this is website is not authoritative, he’s not willing to admit, his media resources which he stole from the OM community are not authoritative. We even held a public meeting to declare the old media resources as dis-endorsed.
This website was not funded by community donations has never asked for donations, doesn’t support any political party, Nick Carson cannot honestly make the same claims.
He’s a green party stooge posing as an activist, to push the green party agenda, which is Marxism.
Because we are smart enough to realize Nick Carson and his hijacker faction for what they are; hijackers.
Because we are smart enough to realize this and know how bad Marxism is we oppose it and all its branches.
Every time we challenge him on his control of the stolen media resources he just spits out a series of lies like this: OM is dead, There is no media team, I don’t have the password, we haven’t had a GA about it, We don’t listen to the GA anymore, OWS doesn’t listen to the GA anymore….
You’ll see in the future he’ll use the OM platform to promote the green party and politics of the left in general, this will be done without mandate or a vote. Just be aware of his real agenda.
Just BS excuses really to justify their stranglehold on the media resources, because that’s all that really matters to them… control
This is the voice of the occupiers, is not going away, get used to it.
It’s nice to know he’s occasionally reminded we exist and we are getting bigger all the time.
Nick Carson has just arrived at the Free shop to try to claim credit for all the work everyone else has done.
In the past he has claimed that he goes to the free shop but we believe this the first time he has actually shown up.
Teigan Evans has been keeping the seat warm for Nick Carson for quite a while, and has even welcomed well know agent provocateurs to the free shop in the past to threaten and harass Free shop volunteers
So on the 6 month anniversary of the free shop Nick Carson wants to take over.
So if you would like to ask Nick Carson why he hijacked all the media resources from Occupy Melbourne and to this day refused to give them back, go and ask him. He’s at the corner of Collins Street and Swanston Street, Melbourne 3000 Victoria, right now.
Update: like a serial con man he is gone in a flash.
And just to clarify for the future, Nick Carson is not an organizer for the march against Monsanto occurring next week, though it’s likely he will try to hijack that too.
This could be the end of the freeshop. Demand answers from the hijackers if you want to save the free shop.
Carl Scrase’s latest attempt to hijack anything worth while remaining from the Occupy Melbourne community resulted in claiming the free shop was art and invited the free shop to be part of an exhibition in the very same gallery he was once again shamelessly promoting himself with his direct democracy scam.
Of course other artists are getting wise to him and we saw this critique of his work on display. Inspired by this critique, I place on my art wank beret and stroke my beard in a sagely fashion.
I think the artist is trying to say he is white, plastic, hollow and overinflated beyond realistic proportions, and full of hot air; while wasting resources and trying to get attention.
Other artists seem to be onto Scrace’s scam, I swear this woman is trolling him. Not the artists actual work just a rough remix I did of her display card and some blank easels from another exhibit.
Of course Carl has been busy trying to muster any interest in himself. About this time last year he was pasting question pages on tagged up walls and seeing how people responded. I must admit the idea is quite interesting, a completely anonymous forum, something like the original graffito of the roman public toilets. the real issue I had was the types of questions asked.
The earlier series was about empathy:
Why is Scrace so interested in empathy? Is it that he does not have any himself and finds the concept mysterious?
The later series was very worrisome.
Fortunately this example was answered quite succinctly.
I concur with this response largely.
We have a constitution in Australia and it is quite a good one. Sadly most of the population is unaware of what is written inside it or what it actually means. I’ll pick the brains of the constitution buffs later, but the constitution we have states clearly taxes are only to be imposed on imports and exports from the country and nothing else, not wages or tobacco or alcohol. Further more the ATO is not mentioned anywhere (not gazetted) and therefore not legal. I’ll go into all of this later on.
Iceland crowd sourced a new constitution AFTER it jailed the bankers and formed a new government. A new constitution before that would be a disaster.
Here is an example of an artist who got into politics and changed the constitution of the country he won power over.
Less than a month after Adolf Hitler’s appointment as chancellor in 1933, the Reichstag Fire Decree invoked Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, suspending several constitutional protections on civil rights. The articles affected were 114 (habeas corpus), 115 (inviolability of residence), 117 (correspondence privacy), 118 (freedom of expression /censorship), 123 (assembly), 124 (associations), and 153 (expropriation).
The subsequent Enabling Act, passed by the Reichstag on March 23, 1933, stated that, in addition to the traditional method of the Reichstag passing legislation, the Reich government could also pass legislation. It further stated that the powers of the Reichstag, Reichsrat and Reich President were not affected. The normal legislative procedures outlined in Articles 68 to 77 of the constitution did not apply to legislation promulgated by the Reich government.
From mediocre artist to brutal fascist, be warned.
After a year of hearing every excuse under the sun and moon from occupy Melbourne’s main facebook page managers why new content creators and administrators should not be added to keep the audience of 14,000+ people in touch with events on the ground in Melbourne, the managers namely scott day, teigan evans and nick carson said it’s theirs and its nobody elses business even though they hijacked it by removing the original page creators and admins claiming the original creators are with the loony fringe and don’t know what they are doing.
I presented a case where participants of occupy in the past should be able to post to the audience with conditions that should be worked out by the community.
We also had meetings in the city square to discuss options about opening it up for the different participants.
My personal opinion also shared by most others is that the following groups should be represented fairly on the page.
- Anti-war groups
- Anti police state groups
- Groups focusing on the international banking system (which was the main reason why occupy started in wall street)
- Refugee groups
- Homeless groups.
- Indigenous groups.
- The fitzroy tent embassy.
- There are definitely other groups not listed who have been shunned to provide a “single voice” as the current media group calls it.
- Also promoting other groups protests events in Melbourne.
The response was “we don’t want the page getting trashed” even though all managers of the page have said occupy is dead and they are inactive on the page, they are happy for one of Melbournes biggest community protest pages to just die for some reason.
Adding to all of this, the current media group decided to ban a content creator who was at the very first organising meeting for OM before it even started, his focus was on the international banking system and money itself. He was hounded down and discredited using main stream media lingo before getting banned. Such a sad state of affairs, please take note of all of this and make sure your protest movements in the future are not hijacked by people who want to try change the tune of the movement to suit their own personal agendas.
*note: None of the people asking for change wanted to be managers, we openly discussed and agreed the best option would be to get new managers within the 99% who have not been involved in negotiations, because there are plenty of people who went to occupy melbourne who are completely trustworthy to manage a page.
Here is a copy of the minutes for one of the meetings before the people asking for transparency and accountability got banned:
Occupy Melbourne Media Meeting Minutes
So that’s all folks.
Recently the Greens in Melbourne City Council decided to do some party promotion media stunts. They got Carl Scrace to hastily make a media release stating that he wanted MCC to investigate the Occupy Melbourne City Square eviction of November 21 2011. Of course this was a media stunt because a federal court case is still ongoing, no investigation by anyone is really appropriate. It was just an opportunity for the Greens and any other political opportunist to grandstand about how 18 months later they support the Occupy Melbourne protests. Thanks for declaring your support now, you still aren’t actually helping us. We predicted this little ill conceived media stunt would simply crash and burn, and it did. But it made us rethink again how the Greens really did nothing for us and really could have done something, especially considering their claimed ideals.
Adam Bandt -Greens Federal for Melbourne.
the MCC media stunt pro investigation votes.
Dr Jackie Watt – RMIT Education PhD. ALP links.
As we can see two pro votes were from Greens , one from an opportunist, one from someone with ALP links. We’ll give Dr Jackie Watt the benefit of the doubt for now.
So there we have it, a Greens inspired media stunt to leverage media coverage of Occupy Melbourne, which they put nothing into and now are attempting to claim as their own.
Were the Greens involved from the beginning?
Right from the beginning we all wondered if there was a connection between ‘The Greens’ political party and Occupy Melbourne or even the movement as a whole. They deny it.
The first clue was Nick Carson, who made the disclaimer that he let his Greens membership lapse. The next clue was Adam Bandt (federal member for Melbourne) arriving at the City Square During the first OM camp.
The next clue was the City Square eviction. How was that a clue? Well Adam Bandt and the Greens held the balance of power in both the Senate and the House of Representatives at the time. Had they decided to make and issue of Occupy Melbourne’s rights to make a political point and demonstrate, they certainly had the power to bring down the government over the issue. Remember this was a government that was a minority government that needed alliances with 3 independents and Adam Bandt from The Greens to have the numbers to govern. Just one dissenter in their ranks was enough to make things very complex for them. Adam Bandt could have voted against them on any bill they tried to pass into law. Adam Bandt’s Green party in the Senate could have struck down two bills and caused a snap election. He was literally holding the government by the balls and just quietly moaned as they slapped against his chin.
So rather than care about our legal right to protest, the Greens turned their backs on us and just complained afterwards.
Most ironically Adam Bandt talks about his highest passions , human rights and the environment, but he allowed dozens of peaceful protestors to be brutalized in the middle of Australia’s second biggest city, he allowed 17 truck loads of their possessions to be destroyed and thrown into landfill.
Because the Greens planned to do nothing socially useful in their entire term and need to attach themselves to a populist cause, preferably something high profile and no longer existent, a martyr cause.
The Greens used Occupy Melbourne as an opportunity to find a popular cause, kill it from the inside, and then use its remains as a platform, simply put: to grandstand on our corpse. After killing it, they just needed to make sure it was completely silent or only making pro Green party murmurs. How’s that working out for you guys?
To make sure OM died the Greens got their operatives in the camp. Most never even stayed one night there, though they felt completely entitled to make decisions that affected those who did.
To make sure OM never said inconvenient things or figured out the truth, their operatives stymied debate, hijacked groups (most significantly the media group), installed politically correct language and culture.
All of the media assets were hijacked and controlled to make sure the messages could be controlled before during and after the protest in the parks.
One of the most obvious Greens operatives was Nick Carson a former greens candidate, he surrounded him self with other operatives to form a quorum to back up his position and point of view.
He hijacked the main Facebook groups putting himself and other operatives as administrators to completely control everything.
Winter 2012 they released ‘Occupy Reflects’, to whitewash themselves out of any possible guilt and to proclaim OM dead and buried.
Nick Carson was probably promised some form of political position for his efforts, but with the discovery and publication of his actions that is now unlikely.
It was relatively obvious who Nick Carson’s fellow Greens operatives were, they all have one thing in common, Marxism.
It’s well known many green movements are watermelons, Marxism disguised as environmentalism. The Greens Party in Australia are no different.
Marxism in brief.
Karl Marx’s ideas were a response to the industrial revolution, the transformation of economic systems from feudalism to capitalism. Marx’s ideas we initially successful in places like Russia and China but the as the rest of the world looked on, other disenchanted workers saw it as less desirable (less freedom, less wealth) than capitalism or feudalism. So in the 20th century Marxist ideas (second wave) were not targeted to the working class (who rejected them), but instead to second rate academics and the marginalized members of society. The biggest success of Marxism’s second wave was Feminism, Gay rights, Racial equality, Environmentalism. This is not to say they were not good things, but rather to point out these areas of academia are absolutely full of Marxist ideology.
Lets look at the Marxist greens and tie some threads together.
Criticize everything except Marxism, don’t offer a solution, because the unspoken solution is Marxism. Critical theory is a hijacking of the term critical thought. Critical thought comes from critique, whereas critical theory comes from the term criticize. Subtle distinction you might say, but a critique is a careful examination that is balanced and objective. Criticize is usually emotionally charged and unbalanced, leaving out opposing arguments.
The Greens just criticized the local council, they didn’t use their political power to stop them. 18 months later they attempted to get political/media profile out of Occupy Melbourne, hoping everyone forgot they denied all connections at the time, did nothing to help, and now care because its an election year.
*OM: many Marxists just criticized what everyone else was doing, but did nothing to help or offer a better solution.
Keep Marxist though secretly as a corner stone of all thought. Promote specific thought terminating cliches to defend Marxism. Make people think they are smart if they can recall which (thought terminating) cliche is the best to end a debate.Marxist thought absolutely pervades arts, social sciences and education departments in higher education. Marxists even created a whole language of cliches and word for things called politically correct language. The politics that was correct in this language was Marxism, but that wasn’t specifically stated. If you think you know everything about the world straight out of university, you are a fool. Much of what you learned was dogma and after leaving university you should find out what was true and what was false. Much of the education system is geared toward leveling everybody out to the same mediocre level, praise the fools and chastise the clever.
Most of the Greens candidates are educated in law, arts and education, most of them are Marxists whether they realize it or not.
*OM: While we had a education working group it largely did nothing, I think it was just there to promote thought terminating cliches and promote politically correct language.
Hijack a group of women who want a better life in capitalism and tell them they are a oppressed by the man’s system (capitalism), make them hate and wish to subjugate men.
Women: men and women are not equal, just as apples and oranges are not equal. Men and women are different but have similarities.
In some circumstances they could be treated equally. I could use either to make apple juice or orange juice. Often both are needed to make a better product, orange juice is better with an apple base. Sometimes one is never a substitute for the other, Apple pie, duck l’Orange.
This is not to say men and women shouldn’t be treated equally where it makes sense to do so.
In the siege of Stalingrad the Russians used many female snipers, some as young as 12 years old, because a rifle can be used by either gender at more or less the same difficulty, unlike the sword that came before it. The use of women in the military in Russia wasn’t so much a triumph for women’s rights, it was more a consequence of the desperation of the Russians who lost more people to world war 2 than any other country.
It wasn’t just the Russians that were keen to use women for the war effort, Women all over the world were encouraged into factories and industries where they had never been before, apart from being secretaries or eye candy. The real feminist push came in the generation following this, when women grew up with mothers who have been in wartime factories and traditionally male dominated professions, only to find their mothers’ careers were somehow off-limits to them. This also coincided with the consolidation of Marxist thought in the embryonic feminist theory being taught at universities.
But men and women should not attempt equality where it makes no sense.
Men can give birth, but does it make a lot of sense to go through all the required surgery and operations, when most women are naturally equipped to to so?
How would women feel paying a tax so men can have operations to get a uterus and give birth?
If you are a woman and you want equality that really means something in the real world, get a gun, that is a real equalizer.
Find a feminist who is not an environmentalist, pretty rare, there is no other obvious logical connection between these two ideologies other than Marxism.
Feminists if you really care about the environment stop using sanitary products containing sphagnum moss, which is harvested by destroying wetlands.
*OM: There was a feminist working group, most of the attendees were women of course, a few men went along, most sessions were apparently to complain about men doing relatively minor things that upset their sensibilities. Most of the men and some of the women attending these meeting were just trying to find women to sleep with. Interestingly they never complained about male (or female) sex predators which did exist sadly.
Lack of democracy.
Democracy sounds good and fair, people like the sound of the word, it implies fairness, Marxists subvert it where possible with bloc voting, stacking elections, forming committees, if needed Marxists find reasons for when it should be abandoned (in favor of Marxist agenda).
Find a democratic reform group that doesn’t use lots of politically correct language: Marxist infiltration.
OM: Many important decisions were made in working groups, though these groups were supposed to be open and transparent, in reality most were closed and didn’t have or release minutes. The facilitation working group was designed to help moderate debates, it was meant to be neutral but in many cases steered debate, or simply denied democracy.
Bureaucracy and cronyism.
Always have cronies and useful idiots at all levels ready to distract and deflect debate with thought terminating cliches. Always have a committee, committees are great, they appear to be a collection of experts and affected individuals making a decision, and it appears to be democratic. Nothing is further from the truth. Committees are usually stacked from the beginning, have very little knowledge of the subject they are making decisions on and are generally unaffected by the decision they make. Committees often have hidden agendas and love making rules for everyone else that they are immune from somehow.
Successful small businesses don’t have committees. Committees and boards of directors are for large inefficient dinosaurs. The communist party has a chairman, governments have committees.
OM: Working groups were often filled with cronies to stack votes and sway opinions.
Lack of transparency.
You don’t need to cover your tracks if there is no transparency in the first instance. The Greens in Australia do not allow media at their conferences, however ALP the Liberals do. Why so secretive?
If Marxism is so great, why is it hiding in so many places?
OM: General assembly minutes sometimes got lost and were sometimes altered before release. Working groups were very much closed. The most secretive were Facilitation, Media and First aid and care.
Facilitation and media should have been the most open, not the most closed. First aid and care certainly covered up at least one sexual assault, probably more.
Does anyone remember the environmental slogan of the 90’s ‘Think Globally, act locally’, it’s an example of the global aspirations of environmentalism and Marxism.
Think Marxism globally, Act Marxist locally.
OM: It was a global movement, I think about the word ‘global’ differently now.
After East Germany collapsed and was absorbed by the capitalist west, enclaves were discovered where the party elites lived, They were full of luxuries the working class could not afford to buy. Many luxuries were illegally imported products from the west that no one was permitted to posses in their glorious workers paradise. Ultimately communism in East Germany was just a dishonest version of capitalism disguised as communism to keep the workers uninformed and compliant.
Hypocrisy is a really strong trait in Marxists, they always have a reason why ‘some animals are more equal that others’.
OM: The Greens operatives almost without exception never stayed in the park from dusk till dawn. Because they were better than everyone else. A true polit bureau.
Ever heard of meteorology or climatology? You have more likely hear of climate science which is not a science at all but claims to be. The committee raises its ugly head again and claims to be an expert (wrong) or claims to have consensus (it doesn’t). Committees don’t do science and consensus is what hold back science not what advances it. The number of people who died because of their scientific idea is staggering, many people died believing outdated theories. Much of the newer paradigms in science were only adopted as truth when people literary grew up in the new paradigm with the old guard simply dying of old age. This didn’t make them right (repeatability and making correct predictions made them correct) but science is a culture and one very resistant to change. In the 90s it was called global warming, because the globe was warming in that period, in the 2000’s it was called climate change (because it was actually cooling down), there’s a big change of the goal posts right there. In the 70s scientists were terrified of a new ice age.
Global warming is not happening, humans are not a significant factor in global temperature.
Global warming, Global scam for Marxist control.
OM: Most people believed in global warming. Most people had no idea this is a massive scam. I’m not sure who’s idea it was for use to eat off plastic disposable plates and use disposable cutlery, but everything else got stolen or destroyed by the council ultimately.
One political term with Greens having some real power:
So our Green party in Australia, what have they done with their small dose of power? Installed a huge tax on everyone in Australia to sending the money offshore to unaccountable people.
If you are a big polluter you pay very little.
Corruption and cronyism: big businesses in bed with the state are protected. Some animals are more equal that other animals.
If you are small business you can’t blame your recent cost increase on carbon tax (that is an offense).
Promoting secrecy around the secret tax , the secret theft.
If you are a poor house holder you will be compensated (at least for now) for the cost addition to your expenses.
Pushing more people to welfare where they can be controlled.
Where did the tax payment really come from, more foreign debt?
More foreign debt means less control over you own country, it slowly slides into the hands of the globalist Marxists.
What went wrong?
They all underestimated a hard core who refused to give up despite the slander, insults lies and offensive behavior of Nick Carson’s Marxist Green hijacker cell.
We bled for this movement, we were harassed 24/7, we were robbed by council workers and other less organized criminals, we were assaulted and threatened by police. For most people this is enough to turn them off, but for some it meant the sunk cost was too high to just walk away, and let the parasites bleed the movement dry and use it for infecting the rest of society.
But that’s the trouble with using delusional flunkies to do your dirty work, it’s hard to get good flunkies, because flunkies are usually incompetent and stupid.
Beside every main gate there is a side door, this is that door. And the door is getting more and more traffic, so much so, it’s going to eventually be the main door.
Occasionally we amplify existing controversy, that’s effectively the role of media in a free society; to voice concerns that affect significant sections of the community. Of course in creating a mechanism of redress to disputes rising from controversy, often a vocal minority will attempt to gain special treatment over the overwhelming majority. In an attempt to be democratic, we are giving all people equal access to redress with our outsourced, independent complaints system.