Mega Mosques planned for Balwyn, Toorak, Caulfield VIC
The same corporation that is funding the planned mosque in Bendigo has plans for even larger mosques in Melbourne suburbs. The 200 muslims in Bendigo clearly cannot afford a $3 million dollar mosque (especially considering the notoriously high unemployment rate among Muslims), the money comes from foreign corporates. Islam is fascism and as Mussolini said Fascism is corporatism.
A mosque in Bendigo is no different to a McDonalds in Tecoma. A foreign corporate imposing its will and beliefs where it is clearly not wanted.
Bendigo $3,000,000 Mosque, 200 Muslims, 430+ objections, Council approves it and then voted out on a no confidence motion.
Posted on June 23, 2014, in Corporations, Fascism, Land, Law & Government, Legal cases, Middle East and tagged Balwyn, Caulfield, Fortress, Islam, Mosque, planned, Toorak. Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.
I was going to mark this article as a parody but the reality is if you don’t do anything to prevent it there will be a mosque in every postcode and we will be living in our own version of Lebanon. Mosques are not like a church, they are fascist fortresses and wherever they are built tyranny, poverty and squalor quickly follow.
Are you kidding me? I thought Occupy Melbourne was about facing injustice down in the face? If Islamic peoples want and need to build a mosque then by all means let them plan develop and do so, within the realms of our multicultural community. The eastern suburbs hold a lot of students from overseas countries, many of whom come to stay. Why not build a mosque in Balwyn, or Caulfield, or Toorak? Because if we say no to Islam, then what happens to the next minority religion? What will happen to minority religions already established? Is this not going against the Australian ethos of a fair go?
Let’s face it, Australia is no longer an exclusively Catholic country, it is slowly turning Atheist. Those of us who are religious must be given room to hold onto traditions and be permitted to freely worship according to our faith, whatever that is.
A mosque is exactly like a Church, or a synagogue, or a temple, or any place of gathering for the purposes of sharing a common belief – even atheists are starting their own “Sunday Assemblies” in halls everywhere. To deny Islam their mosque is to start stripping away freedoms the rest of us enjoy.
Facing injustice down in the face? What does that even mean.? But some people might feel that it’s not justice if the objections of a local population are not taken into account, which is what happened in Bendigo.
Do you honestly believe there would ever be a mosque in Caulfield, which has many Jewish residents – or in Toorak, where the wealthy would object to such a plan outright. That is the point : Bendigo residents are denied a voice on this topic, which very much affects them and the future of their town. Of course to most people in Melbourne, Bendigo barely exists, so it doesn’t really matter what the residents of Bendigo think.
They have reasonable objections based on what happens when Islam takes residence in western countries, but are labelled bigots, racists and Islamophobes, none of which stands up on closer analysis.
All religions, not matter how much they differ from each other, advocate the golden rule. Except for one : Islam, which advocates the killing of infidels. It’s in the Koran. Islam does not mean ‘peace” it means “submission”.
Most minority (or even majority ) religions therefore do not pose a problem to their neighbours and so their temples, meeting halls, churches etc. do not pose a problem for the rest of society. Islam is barely a religion, it is a medieval fascist controlling ideology that does not have a place in modern democratic society.
Quoting Ali Sina, an ex-muslim apostate (from faithfreedom.org)
“Islam is a religion of peace”. This is what our politically correct politicians keep telling us. But what is politically correct is not necessarily correct. The truth is that Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of hate, of terror and of war. A thorough study of the Quran and Hadith reveal an Islam that is not being presented honestly by the Muslim propagandists and is not known to the majority of the people of the world including Muslim themselves. Islam, as it is taught in the Quran (Koran) and lived by Muhammad, as is reported in the Hadith (Biography and sayings of the Prophet) is a religion of injustice,intolerance, cruelty, absurdities, discrimination, contradictions, and blind faith. Islam advocates killing the non-Muslims and abuses the human rights of minorities and women. Islam expanded mostly by Jihad (holy war) and forced its way by killing the non-believers. In Islam apostasy is the biggest crime punishable by death”
It must also be stated, that Muslims are not by definition bad people, but that they are victims of a fascist ideology which has been brainwashed into them since birth. So called moderate Muslims are often Muslims in name only.
In Europe, where Muslim population is much higher than here, citizens and politicians have now woken up to the fact that , in the words of Angela Merckel (German Chancellor) :”With regard to Islam, multiculturalism has failed.”
Hide behind politically correct ideology and with your head in the sand at your peril. Occupymelbourne.net refuses to do so.
Hi Grumpy Cat,
Thanks for your reply, I can see you’re approaching this with reason.
If I may come back at you in kind: you are singling out Islam as a religion of hate – yet all Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity) have the same teachings in their Torah and Bible: “An eye for an eye”. Yet we don’t attack them as religions of hate, or fascism. We don’t ascribe terrorism to them.
However Christianity and Judaism can inspire acts of terror. Look at Christian fundamentalists bombing abortion clinics in the USA. Look at Anders Breivik. Look at the IRA in Ireland for all those years. Look at the Zionist revolutionaries before Israel was created in 1947.
As you say, just as Muslims are not by definition bad, neither are Christians or Jewish people. But we can sit here all day and debate back and forth on the sins of one religion against another.
I’m also scratching my head about your attribution of Islam providing a constant medieval state on it’s people.
Malaysia is a thoroughly modern country – and also a majority Muslim country. Life seems to work pretty nicely for them in general. Not saying they don’t have problems, but I am saying they are a generally functional nation who operate with a majority Islamic population. Jordan is another example.
Finally, I want to re-emphasise my point in my first post, “within the realms of our multicultural community”. If McDonalds went and built a restaurant out in the middle of nowhere, they would be fools because there’s no traffic for them to attract customers. That franchise would up and die. Same principal with a Mosque – it needs to go where it’s worshippers are. In the Eastern suburbs, there are plenty of Muslim people, many students, but also families are moving into such areas.
Surely a community consultation would include speaking to these people?
What seems to have happened in Bendigo is, a community group proposed building something in Bendigo for themselves, and Bendigo has looked to approve it. Then a whole bunch of other people with agendas have come in against it, produced an argument which effectively EXCLUDES this community group FROM THE COMMUNITY, and a whole bunch of people are banging on about their rights to be away from the mean, nasty Islamic people down the road.
I don’t want the same thing to happen to my neighbourhood.
I can assure you having lived down the road from a Mosque for a few years that there’s not that much of a problem with traffic, with the people conducting their worship, or with any situation in general.
Facing injustice down in the face? Well, perhaps my writing is clumsy, I am no Shakespeare. But that is what I am trying to do right now. 🙂
Hope this helps, hope the debate is kept peaceful (unlike Bendigo) and reasoned. But above all, I hope multiculturalism wins, because when it works in this town, it is a beautiful thing.
>You are singling out Islam as a religion of hate – yet all Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity) have the same teachings in their Torah and Bible: “An eye for an eye”. Yet we don’t attack them as religions of hate, or fascism. We don’t ascribe terrorism to them.
Teachings in the Bible and Torah: if one studies carefully one will realize and eye for an eye is balanced out with ‘turn the other cheek’ so the response to a situation is no so dogmatic and robotic. With the Koran any inconsistency is cleared up with a simple rule, which ever passage is written closest to the end of the book takes precedence. This might seem a trivial distinction until one realizes the bloodthirsty passages are written at the end of the book countermanding anything high minded at the beginning.
>However Christianity and Judaism can inspire acts of terror. Look at Christian fundamentalists bombing abortion clinics in the USA. Look at Anders Breivik. Look at the IRA in Ireland for all those years. Look at the Zionist revolutionaries before Israel was created in 1947.
Yet most of the west despises and denounces those acts, in Islam those acts if done by Islam against non-Muslims would be widely praised. case in point is the 9-11 attacks, Many Muslims applauded the attacks.
>I’m also scratching my head about your attribution of Islam providing a constant medieval state on it’s people.
Malaysia is a thoroughly modern country – and also a majority Muslim country. Life seems to work pretty nicely for them in general.
Islam relies on the tyranny and ignorance of its dark age style fascism and despotism to maintain power. Malaysia we have heard is close to imposing Sharia law, so it will be a place to watch in the future. You may also wish to recall that Australia refuse to use Malaysia as a refuge processing center because of significant human rights abuses, prisoners getting whipped while chained to a rack naked is an image that springs to mind.
>”within the realms of our multicultural community”
Islam generally refuses to integrate into any society rather it wishes to develop separately inside another country rotting the host culture from the inside and imposing its values on their hosts. When critical mass is reached a violent uprising occurs and then the country is lost to Islam, and anytime before this holy war is declared the time of ignorance. This process is no accident and the progression closely matches Muslims population percentage.
> If McDonalds went and built a restaurant…
McDonalds wanted to build a restaurant in Tecoma and the public refused, the local council refused, McDonalds just bribed its way into Tecoma and made a mockery of democracy in the process. In the end security guard stomped on the fingers of a fallen protester as a show of how ruthless McDonalds were. For the Bendigo situation the foreign corporate in this case in Islam. Islam make a mockery of democracy and most likely have bribed to get their way. Islam, I can assure you are just as ruthless, and are probably taxing your food so you don’t even have a choice whether to support them or not.
>Surely a community consultation would include speaking to these people?
Did you not observe the council that approved the mosque received a unanimous vote of no confidence for the public gallery at the meeting. The people clearly said “NO”.
> I can assure you having lived down the road from a Mosque for a few years that there’s not that much of a problem with traffic, with the people conducting their worship, or with any situation in general.
the spread of Islam in Australia is low, many children born into Islam abandon it because they see it for what it is, a backward, violent, perverted ideology designed to appease the whims of one man, Muhammad.
The main reason so many children of Muslim parents are able to live their lives as apostates (people who quit Islam) is that Australia considers it a freedom to join or leave any religion (or have no religion) without punishment. Islam states that all unbelievers should be killed without question.
while the numbers of Muslims are less that 1% of the population there will not be obvious significant problems but you can be assured that this situation is a beach head, Islam as an ideology wishes to dominate the world and if they do so Australia will be no different o any other Muslim majority nation, violent, dishonest and ignorant.
>Hope this helps, hope the debate is kept peaceful (unlike Bendigo) and reasoned. But above all, I hope multiculturalism wins, because when it works in this town, it is a beautiful thing.
Have you ever heard of a Hindu extremist? How about a Buddhist extremist? Confucian extremist? Funny that…It seems most cultures that come here are happy to get along with everyone else and accept the fact that they wont get their way on everything they want, and some that compromises will need to be made. Everyone that is except Islam.
Think about why that is, and why that is not fair to everyone else.
I think that basically refutes your point about Malaysia.
Hope you feel the same way when your wife, your daughter and even your mother are getting beaten in the streets for not wearing islamic head coverings – or are they already wearing them? – IDIOT!